Lol, I was randomly thinking of HoH and Dean's faith (probably after thinking about 4x18 earlier tonight, and I'm still bored), and I wanted to swing by here--I don't think I ever read this one (or finished it) either, or if I did it seems I didn't comment on it!
Anyway, I was just thinking that it's pretty ironic that the angel who supposedly (or at least I saw it this way) impaled the evil guy/delivered justice in the end was the same Michael trying to get into Dean right now....
Also I think that Castiel's "Good things do happen to good people, sometimes, Dean" attempt at reassurance/persuasion was also very perceptive, based on what we learn of Dean's beliefs in this episode.
He usually needs to be very distressed like in Home or Dead in the Water to open up about it. It again emphasizes how different Dean sees things because he is the one who remembers. He is the one who had that time with his mother and Sam didn’t, he had a family that Sam never experienced and had it ripped away in an instant and that makes all the difference between these brothers.
I think that this is beautifully put, and is something that I haven't thought about so much before, but which I'd say is very true. I really do think it's worse to have had and lost than to have never had at all....(In the past I have thought about this in terms of Mary Tudor and her younger sister Elizabeth, and how I think Mary would have been more traumatized by her childhood than Eliz was, because she could actually remember being happy and having a loving mother and family and the status of Princess of Wales before it was all ripped away from her, whereas Eliz was too young really to remember having a mother, or a special and non-bastard status....there though is another very interesting sibling relationship! ;)).
And I think that Sam recognizing specifically Catholic ideology isn't necessarily an indication of his personal religion so much as his recognition that lots of Catholic things (apparently!) have powers against demons (rosaries, Latin, etc). Research!Sammy has to know this stuff....like speaking invocations in Latin! (Though of course he still needs to learn the most basic religious word in Latin, Deus! *rolleyes*).
So I'm guessing it was after this episode aired that Kripke made that infamous statement about angels never appearing on the show? :p
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Date: 2010-01-26 06:44 am (UTC)Anyway, I was just thinking that it's pretty ironic that the angel who supposedly (or at least I saw it this way) impaled the evil guy/delivered justice in the end was the same Michael trying to get into Dean right now....
Also I think that Castiel's "Good things do happen to good people, sometimes, Dean" attempt at reassurance/persuasion was also very perceptive, based on what we learn of Dean's beliefs in this episode.
He usually needs to be very distressed like in Home or Dead in the Water to open up about it. It again emphasizes how different Dean sees things because he is the one who remembers. He is the one who had that time with his mother and Sam didn’t, he had a family that Sam never experienced and had it ripped away in an instant and that makes all the difference between these brothers.
I think that this is beautifully put, and is something that I haven't thought about so much before, but which I'd say is very true. I really do think it's worse to have had and lost than to have never had at all....(In the past I have thought about this in terms of Mary Tudor and her younger sister Elizabeth, and how I think Mary would have been more traumatized by her childhood than Eliz was, because she could actually remember being happy and having a loving mother and family and the status of Princess of Wales before it was all ripped away from her, whereas Eliz was too young really to remember having a mother, or a special and non-bastard status....there though is another very interesting sibling relationship! ;)).
And I think that Sam recognizing specifically Catholic ideology isn't necessarily an indication of his personal religion so much as his recognition that lots of Catholic things (apparently!) have powers against demons (rosaries, Latin, etc). Research!Sammy has to know this stuff....like speaking invocations in Latin! (Though of course he still needs to learn the most basic religious word in Latin, Deus! *rolleyes*).
So I'm guessing it was after this episode aired that Kripke made that infamous statement about angels never appearing on the show? :p