I hit a new record in wordcount with this one. I am not quite sure how that happened! *g* Oh, I can easily imagine how that happened! You sit at your keyboard and start typing, and more and more thoughts occur to you (plus there are more characters to analyse these days) and the next thing you know you are breaking personal records left, right and centre!
it’s also that he has given up on himself *nods* That's the perfect description of Sam's state of mind in this episode. He has completely given up on who he once thought he was, believes that he has burned all his bridges and there can be no going back, so he has to carry on because if he doesn't then it was all for nothing - achieving his goal is literally all he has left to cling to for comfort. Damn but his failure is going to hit him hard.
She also claimed in The Kids Are Alright that she was interested in Sam, because she wanted to find out what the YED’s plans for Sam were and what he tried to cover up, when he murdered Mary’s friends (which, by the way, we still don’t know) and apparently she was lying back then, so I assume it was simply an additional way to peak Sam’s interest in her. Hmm. I'm not so sure. We've already talked about this, I know, but I'm still not convinced that either Ruby or Lilith knew exactly what the YED had planned for Sam back then, at that early stage. I haven't thought it through properly, as you know, but at the moment I tend to suspect that they knew only that Sam was important for some reason, and Ruby being sent in to cultivate him was part of the process of finding out just why he was important.
I think her claim that it has always been about Sam refers to the fact that he was the sole survivor of the Cold Oak death match and hence the YED's prodigy. *nods* Me too. It was all about Sam from Ruby and Lilith's point of view because by the time they picked up the pieces of the YED's plan, Sam was the last man standing of the special children.
Castiel stated in In The Beginning that the angels don’t know what the YED’s end game was and I tend to think that this was a case of misdirection on Zachariah’s behalf Also the perfect out for the writers, no? It allows them to contradict themselves as much as they like where high command is concerned, because Castiel never knew back then what was really going on.
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I hit a new record in wordcount with this one. I am not quite sure how that happened! *g*
Oh, I can easily imagine how that happened! You sit at your keyboard and start typing, and more and more thoughts occur to you (plus there are more characters to analyse these days) and the next thing you know you are breaking personal records left, right and centre!
it’s also that he has given up on himself
*nods* That's the perfect description of Sam's state of mind in this episode. He has completely given up on who he once thought he was, believes that he has burned all his bridges and there can be no going back, so he has to carry on because if he doesn't then it was all for nothing - achieving his goal is literally all he has left to cling to for comfort. Damn but his failure is going to hit him hard.
She also claimed in The Kids Are Alright that she was interested in Sam, because she wanted to find out what the YED’s plans for Sam were and what he tried to cover up, when he murdered Mary’s friends (which, by the way, we still don’t know) and apparently she was lying back then, so I assume it was simply an additional way to peak Sam’s interest in her.
Hmm. I'm not so sure. We've already talked about this, I know, but I'm still not convinced that either Ruby or Lilith knew exactly what the YED had planned for Sam back then, at that early stage. I haven't thought it through properly, as you know, but at the moment I tend to suspect that they knew only that Sam was important for some reason, and Ruby being sent in to cultivate him was part of the process of finding out just why he was important.
I think her claim that it has always been about Sam refers to the fact that he was the sole survivor of the Cold Oak death match and hence the YED's prodigy.
*nods* Me too. It was all about Sam from Ruby and Lilith's point of view because by the time they picked up the pieces of the YED's plan, Sam was the last man standing of the special children.
Castiel stated in In The Beginning that the angels don’t know what the YED’s end game was and I tend to think that this was a case of misdirection on Zachariah’s behalf
Also the perfect out for the writers, no? It allows them to contradict themselves as much as they like where high command is concerned, because Castiel never knew back then what was really going on.