I don't know what you mean by "normal". Are they commonly used insults? Yes. Can they be used to joke around with? Yes. Are they accepted in polite company, no. (And I'm including calling someone an idiot or stupid as those are extremely hurtful). Or if you were to say these insults to your loved one accidentallly in anger, you are in the deepest of trouble (for days). Not to mention feel regret for saying them.
Also, I can't even curse jokingly in my parents house without repercussions. Though it's looser than when I was in high school and I literally got in bigtime trouble for saying the word "crap".
My disappointment is that the language is very "Jerry Springer." Which is the most sludgiest and embarrassing example of humanity, if you've never heard of it. They are good enough insults to pepper in, but not specific enough to really hurt the intended person. If all you have are those generic words over and over, then you just look like an uneducated nitwit (and it gets boring fast).
Not everyone is lucky enough to have had their high school English teacher to have pointed this out (and told us to color up our insults if we were going to do them). So seeing such repetitive language on tv by a cool character like Dean could reinforce the belief that those are good insults. When in fact the name caller just looks lame.
My dislike is not only creativity, but really regarding the effectfulness of such insults by Dean. As astartexx brings up below, they can be empowering rather than hurtful. By wrapping yourself in the armor of, "yeah, what's it to you if I am?" and "not like I haven't heard that one before", one has the opportunity to laugh at the person sputtering out the weak, unspecific insults.
Ruby has endured hundreds of "real" years of hell, maybe millions of "hell" years. I don't think cheap basic trailer trash insults can cause anger, pain, or insult after what she's been through.
Ruby's screams of how she wanted Dean to experience hell, were far more cutting than the generic ones Dean used on her.
For me, it felt Dean was just so frustrated with his anger for her that he couldn't calm down enough to come up with smart retorts. His replying, "you're the short bus" to her first saying it in MM, killed me dead with his lameness. I hate to say it, but its true. Not to mention, maybe even demonstrated his need to ride the short bus.
Bela also was able to best him as well with retorts. It really cut to me to see Dean so neutered by their insults and unable to fight on their levels.
Anyway, this is a thorn that's been digging at me this season and I'm really glad you brought it up. *hugs*
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Also, I can't even curse jokingly in my parents house without repercussions. Though it's looser than when I was in high school and I literally got in bigtime trouble for saying the word "crap".
My disappointment is that the language is very "Jerry Springer." Which is the most sludgiest and embarrassing example of humanity, if you've never heard of it. They are good enough insults to pepper in, but not specific enough to really hurt the intended person. If all you have are those generic words over and over, then you just look like an uneducated nitwit (and it gets boring fast).
Not everyone is lucky enough to have had their high school English teacher to have pointed this out (and told us to color up our insults if we were going to do them). So seeing such repetitive language on tv by a cool character like Dean could reinforce the belief that those are good insults. When in fact the name caller just looks lame.
My dislike is not only creativity, but really regarding the effectfulness of such insults by Dean. As astartexx brings up below, they can be empowering rather than hurtful. By wrapping yourself in the armor of, "yeah, what's it to you if I am?" and "not like I haven't heard that one before", one has the opportunity to laugh at the person sputtering out the weak, unspecific insults.
Ruby has endured hundreds of "real" years of hell, maybe millions of "hell" years. I don't think cheap basic trailer trash insults can cause anger, pain, or insult after what she's been through.
Ruby's screams of how she wanted Dean to experience hell, were far more cutting than the generic ones Dean used on her.
For me, it felt Dean was just so frustrated with his anger for her that he couldn't calm down enough to come up with smart retorts. His replying, "you're the short bus" to her first saying it in MM, killed me dead with his lameness. I hate to say it, but its true. Not to mention, maybe even demonstrated his need to ride the short bus.
Bela also was able to best him as well with retorts. It really cut to me to see Dean so neutered by their insults and unable to fight on their levels.
Anyway, this is a thorn that's been digging at me this season and I'm really glad you brought it up. *hugs*