He forgot that we can't accept that the brothers let each other die. They never have, so why would this be any different. See, I don't believe this is the problem. Dean let Sam die when he agreed to Sam's plan to say yes to Michael, for example. He realised that there are things that are bigger than just he and Sam. And while he may have been looking for a way to bust Sam out of the cage, I have to believe that he would have kept his word not to risk the world in order to bring Sam back. Sam's situation was similar. The very thing he always feared would happen - namely that one day hunting got his brother killed - actually happened, and I have to believe that, after what happened the last time Dean died on Sam, he would know better than to 'break the universe' again in order to resurrect/avenge him. All the growth and maturity Sam displayed in S5-S7 would have been for naught, if he had gone crazy in an attempt to bring Dean back from the dead.
So, I don't have a problem with Sam accepting that Dean had died. Should he have looked for irrefutable proof before accepting it? Maybe. But I think it is easy to make a case for his fragile mental state at the time. My problem is with the fact that the writers never allowed Sam to make his case; they never built an actual story around Sam's struggle to let his brother go and make different choices than 4 years ago. My problem is with the fact that they deliberately undermined Sam's story in order to facilitate conflict between the brothers. My problem is with the fact that, once again, Dean's position was given more weight, which left a significant number of fans unable to connect with and understand Sam's side of the story. I could have lived with the fact that the writers disregarded the complexity of the show's own mythology where the non-absolute nature of death is concerned, but I can't get past their bad treatment of the characters.
I am actually quite confident that Carver knows what he's doing in S9. I am glad you still have faith in the current team. I honestly try not be one of those fans that, instead of just letting go of the show, spoil the fun for others by ranting and whining non-stop about it. I hope your faith is validated in S9, I just can't share it at the moment. :)
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See, I don't believe this is the problem. Dean let Sam die when he agreed to Sam's plan to say yes to Michael, for example. He realised that there are things that are bigger than just he and Sam. And while he may have been looking for a way to bust Sam out of the cage, I have to believe that he would have kept his word not to risk the world in order to bring Sam back. Sam's situation was similar. The very thing he always feared would happen - namely that one day hunting got his brother killed - actually happened, and I have to believe that, after what happened the last time Dean died on Sam, he would know better than to 'break the universe' again in order to resurrect/avenge him. All the growth and maturity Sam displayed in S5-S7 would have been for naught, if he had gone crazy in an attempt to bring Dean back from the dead.
So, I don't have a problem with Sam accepting that Dean had died. Should he have looked for irrefutable proof before accepting it? Maybe. But I think it is easy to make a case for his fragile mental state at the time. My problem is with the fact that the writers never allowed Sam to make his case; they never built an actual story around Sam's struggle to let his brother go and make different choices than 4 years ago. My problem is with the fact that they deliberately undermined Sam's story in order to facilitate conflict between the brothers. My problem is with the fact that, once again, Dean's position was given more weight, which left a significant number of fans unable to connect with and understand Sam's side of the story. I could have lived with the fact that the writers disregarded the complexity of the show's own mythology where the non-absolute nature of death is concerned, but I can't get past their bad treatment of the characters.
I am actually quite confident that Carver knows what he's doing in S9.
I am glad you still have faith in the current team. I honestly try not be one of those fans that, instead of just letting go of the show, spoil the fun for others by ranting and whining non-stop about it. I hope your faith is validated in S9, I just can't share it at the moment. :)